but as part of the obama administration effort, basically, to tank our national missile defense program, they were put off, even in 2009 north korea exploded a second nuclear device. so, it's a step in the right direction. it's too late, but it's still a step in the right direction. there are other aspects, such as the canceled plans for radars and missile sites in poland and the czech republic and the famous reset buttons, there were casualties there and that will will have to be put back in place. >> gregg: and a little experience sometimes burnishes your wisdom. the north koreans, as i understand it, are trying to miniaturize their nukes to place them atop missiles and trying to develop missiles that could actually reach the west coast of the united states and hawaii. how serious a threat is that? >> well, i think it's a very serious threat. not today, but you know, one reason, as you said earlier, you need to get these additional missiles installed, missile for missile defense purposes, you don't sort of push a button and get ready. the north koreans are trying to increase the capab